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  If the WT is a "money making machine"...who gets the money?

  by NikL in

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  i've seen claims over the years that wt is in the real estate, book publishing business and is a for profit enterprise at it's core.. can those of you that believe this to be the case tell me who benefits from all this wealth?.

  the governing body lives in relatively humble conditions no?.

  i've been curious about this for a while.

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  stan livedeath

  midnight20 minutes ago

  They use the money to balance out the needs of those publishers/ congregations in poorer,/developing countries I would guess

  
  

  bwaaa haaa haaa haaa---sooo funny.
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  Wishing a Wonderful New Year to All of You!

  by clarity in

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  2. friends

  at the beginning of this new year, i hope all those who have woken-up & stood up to the control & deception of the watchtower cult, realize what an amazing change you have accomplished.

  congratulations.. i hope all who are exposing the wt be encouraged by the massive flood of those waking-up and then working shoulder to shoulder with you.. may this year 2017 bring many good things!..

  xox.

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  stan livedeath

  happy new year from the UK--isle of wight branch
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  help me think like an elder

  by Homer notsimpson in

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  ok guys, i have been tasked to ask for your opinions regarding this case.. and be honest.

  my brother sexted a girl a little over a year ago, they never dated, and she got mad at him.... she got engaged and the engagement ended in august.. she attempted suicide, then talked to the elders an told him she was gonna tell on him too, now that was in august, the sister told my brother that since she didn't know his hall they couldn't do anything.. we found that doesn't seem right, so hes been freaking out, but ita now two days away from 2017 and the elders haven't speaked to him yet.. why could that be?

  could they give him all this time to confess?

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  stan livedeath

  did she get cyber-pregnant ?
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  Why would Jehovah give Satan rulership of the World.?

  by smiddy in

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  2. beliefs

  romans 13 : 1-7 "let every soul be in subjection to the superior authorities" etc,"the existing authourities stand placed in their relative positions by god" 2".therefore he who opposers the authourity has taken a stand against the arrangement of god ,those who have taken a stand against it will recieve judgement to themselves "etc,etc,.."..to him who calls for honour such honour.".

  isnt this plainly stating that christians should be supporting and playing along with the governments of this sytem of things ?

  that it is in fact an arrangement of god ?

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  stan livedeath

  you dont think all this jehovah--satan stuff might just be a man-made fairy story do you ?
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  Why do JW's never pray for the Spirit of Jesus?

  by Yesu Kristo Bwana Wangu in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i am new on this forum.

  i have been associating with the jw's for three years, and was about to be baptised soon (next month).

  however, i discovered on time that it is not right to do.

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  stan livedeath

  hi--welcome to the site.

  its a good job your not baptised--because if you were---asking questions like this

  I asked, how could this be if they are two different Spirits? If the one is also implying the other, why does Acts mention them apart from each other? I told them that in my view, what they were implying was that the two Spirits are in fact only one spirit could get you disfellowshipped.

  if youre not sure what disfellowshipping means--ask those elders to explain. also--ask them about shunning too.

  
  
  
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  Bad Press Is The Reason For Watchtower Corporation Move Into The Boonies For Seclusion

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

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  with all the pedophile lawsuits can you blame them?

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  i think the silent lambs march as well as dire financial straits is making them trying to get out of public eye with restricted access to headquarters, were as in brooklyn ny it was not possible..

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  stan livedeath

  or is there even a plan

  
  

  plan A having failed ( no big A )

  this is plan B
  
  
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  AND STILL NO RELEASE OF THE 2017 JW YEARBOOK

  by steve2 in

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  2. beliefs

  here we are on the cusp of the new year, and the 2017 yearbook of jws has still not been released.

  jw.org continues to feature the 2016 yearbook in its list of main publications.

  in previous years, the upcoming yearbook's annual report on jws was released in november for the january 1st then the feb 1st watchtower, then earlier in december when it was only featured in the yearbook, then more recently with a couple of days of december 25th.

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  stan livedeath

  maybe used this years over again ? save money.
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  UK Kingdom Halls for sale

  by darkspilver in

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  " and a mighty cry went out over all the land: "sell !

  sell !

  sell !

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  stan livedeath

  Lostandfound4 hours ago

  Who makes decision to sell a KH

  Do cong members have any say?

  Or is it just announced to them by CO

  just a thought--i wonder if the watchtower makes its decision to sell based on the donated income from a hall ? if its below a set percentage--then cash it in.

  
  
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  watchtower lapel pins

  by wannaexit in

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  i've been noticing lots of these pins on lapels.

  i could almost understand the jwdotorg pin because the new mantra is to go to the website.

  but why on earth are they sporting a building?

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  stan livedeath

  

  hmmmm

  watchtower..1909-2016

  is there a message there ?
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  Kingdom Hall Sell-Offs - 2 Defunct Phrases Now

  by The Searcher in

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  2. beliefs

  1) when a newly built k.h.

  is dedicated, the sheep are told that the building "will be a great witness for jehovah.

  the opposite must now be true - when they get rid of it to accumulate cash, they must now be "un-witnessing for jehovah.".

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  stan livedeath

  hows this for a business plan:

  the local dubs have their own--very nice hall. built with slave voluntary labour--and paid for by their own contributions.--and a mortgage to the society.

  but now--the watchtower orders it to be sold--and the money sent to the society.

  the local congregation then continue to contribute the same amount as they did before--in perpetuity.

  however--the hall is then sold to an investor---who promptly leases it back to the congregation---who now have to pay rent as well !

  so--everyone is happy. just that the local dubs are too thick to realise they have been shafted.